Posts Tagged: marriage equality

Zombie HJR-3: Out-of-state groups want to force HJR-3 onto 2014 ballot

According to RTV-6 News – Group may force HJR-3 on 2014 ballot: Posted: 02/19/2014 Rafael Sanchez INDIANAPOLIS – A national pro-marriage group is considering whether to take legal action to force HJR-3 on the Indiana ballot in November 2014. The measure came to a halt on Monday, when the Senate did not return the bill

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The End of HJR-3 for 2014 (with some thoughts on HB-1153)

Because in the past, I’ve been terrible about writing down the follow-up of the Indiana Marriage Discrimination Amendment, here’s a wrap-up post in case this comes up again in two years – HJR-3 passed through the state legislature, but we essentially “won” because we succeeded in keeping it off the ballot in 2014. After my

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How Marriage Equality Opponents’ Three National Strategies All Contradict Each Other

From Think Progress: How Marriage Equality Opponents’ Three National Strategies All Contradict Each Other. At the federal level, opponents currently have three proposed strategies for rolling back some of the recognition that same-sex couples now have. Particularly in the wake of the Utah and Oklahoma decisions, groups like the National Organization for Marriage (NOM) and

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HJR-3 to be heard in the Indiana House Monday at 1:30 p.m.

After some committee shenanigans, (in which Brian Bosma moved the bill from House Judiciary committee to the Elections and Apportionment committee when it became clear that it wouldn’t pass the first one) HJR-3 passed out of committee on Wednesday, and will be heard on the floor of the Indiana House on Monday at 1:30 p.m.

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Skipping Ender’s Game

Geeks OUT wants you to Skip Ender’s Game, and they have some compelling reasons why. As I’ve noted here back in 2005, Orson Scott Card is a homophobic nut who has said some terrible and dangerous things about gay people. Geeks OUT compiles a larger, more complete list of how he had harmed gay people:

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The Pope’s “new stance” on homosexuality

Let me do the TL;DR up front – it’s the same as the old stance. Several new stories have come out today about a recent interview Pope Francis did where he expanded on his comments from July on homosexuality and women’s roles in the church. I’ll link to some articles about what he had to

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Batwoman writers leave DC Comics over ban on same-sex marriage

J.H. Williams III and Haden Blackman — longtime writers of the Batwoman comic book — are leaving DC Comics over a dispute about editorial changes to their planned story lines, including being forbidden to show the main character marrying her same-sex partner. Cross-posted by the authors to both author sites: Unfortunately, in recent months, DC

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What DOMA means for Indiana: nothing changes, but everything changes

Both the ACLU (our friends!) and the Indiana branch of the American Family Association (not our friends at all!) are noting that the DOMA decision by the Supreme Court doesn’t have any direct effect on same-sex marriage in Indiana, according to the Indy Star. Indiana has a law on the books banning same-sex marriage, and

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Decision Day: DOMA and Prop-8 Fall

Defense of Marriage Act is Unconstitutional as a deprivation of the equal liberty of persons that is protected by the Fifth Amendment.. Link to the decision: UNITED STATES v. WINDSOR, EXECUTOR OF THE ESTATE OF SPYER, ET AL. From SCOTUSblog: So does this mean that I’ll be able to file joint taxes with my wife?

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Adorable Gay Men get marriage license

Via the Maddow Blog – Pic: Way past wonderful – The Maddow Blog, these two adorable gay men are applying for a marriage license in Washington: Randy and Larry Get Married One month after Washington State voters approved the state’s marriage equality law in Ref. 74, same-sex couples get marriage licenses for the first time

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links for 2011-08-25

Indiana stage collapse lawsuits could challenge state's rules on gay marriage | WBEZ Attorney Kenneth Allen said his clients were recently married in Hawaii, a state that allows same sex civil unions. Beth Urschel was injured in the stage collapse. Her spouse, Tammy VanDam, died from the incident. Allen said the lawsuits address a legal

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U.S. District Court Decision: Perry v. Schwarzenegger

The whole document it’s entirety, courtesy of the New York Times. There is some scrumptious reading here; things that just make me giddy with glee. “Proposition 8 fails to advance any rational basis in singling out gay men and lesbians for denial of a marriage license. Indeed, the evidence shows Proposition 8 does nothing more

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Prop 8 Overturned by Federal Court

According to MSNBC news services: SAN FRANCISCO — In a major victory for gay rights advocates, a federal judge on Wednesday struck down a California ban on same-sex marriage. Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker ruled that the voter-approved ban, known as Proposition 8, violates due process and equal-protection rights under the U.S. Constitution. …

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Prop 8 – The Musical

“Prop 8 – The Musical” starring Jack Black, John C. Reilly, and many more… A star-studded cast turns out for Marc Shaiman’s “Prop 8 – The Musical.”

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Mixed emotions

So many reasons to be happy, and yet… California and Prop 8 is still to close to call. And as the NY Times explains — “Ban-gay-marriage amendments were approved in Arizona and Florida, and gay rights forces suffered a loss in Arkansas, where voters approved a measure banning unmarried couples from serving as adoptive or

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How to Get Married in Toronto, ON

Wil asked how we went about setting up our marriage in Toronto, and I realized I never really blogged about that in the rush of planning everything. It was a very simple process, in two parts — applying for the license and having the ceremony. First you apply for the marriage license. You fill out

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Our Friends David and Rich get married in California

My college roommate David got married in California to his husband Rich on Tuesday, June 17th. They were the first same-sex marriage in Santa Clara county. Here is David’s blog post about their marriage, and here’s a video of the vows… Yay!

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links for 2008-06-19

Lawyers, Guns and Money: Thanks to 9/11, she’s outraged by decolonization “I am aware of all internet traditions.” Where the meme started. (tags: meme funny) Balloon Juice “I am aware of all internet traditions” explained. (tags: funny meme) Balloon Juice – Internet Traditions Parodies “I am aware of all internet traditions” parodied. (tags: meme funny)

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links for 2008-06-18

Same-sex weddings start with union of elderly San Francisco couple Yay! (tags: equal marriage rights lgbt) A List Apart: Articles: Faux Absolute Positioning (tags: grid design webdesign) Mississippi Floodwaters in Iowa – The Big Picture – Boston.com (tags: photography disaster iowa)

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Same-Sex Marriage in California

As of yesterday at 5:01 p.m., same-sex couples can get legally married in the state of California. (Yay!) One of the first in San Francisco city hall was the Marriage of Phyllis Lyon and Del Martin. Phyllis and Del are pioneers of the feminist and gay rights movements and have been a couple since 1952.

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Just Married

Stephanie and I got married on Saturday. I would have blogged about it at the time, but for some reason, I had big bundle of gladiolas in my arms and no access to a keyboard. (How’d that happen?) I picked gladiolas for my bouquet because they’re what my Grandma Mineart carried in her wedding, and

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links for 2008-03-18

Video Coming To Flickr Soon. Really. Yay. I’ve been patiently waiting for this. I have a YouTube account, but having my videos in separate places has always bothered me. (tags: flickr tools video) Hepper | Modern Pet Furniture That Will Make You Jealous (tags: design furniture pets) flickrSLiDR – Embed Flickr Slideshows within Your Site

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links for 2008-02-27

Smart ForTwo Is a Blue-State City Car, Right? Guess Again | Autopia from Wired.com (tags: smartcar) The gay marriage slump | Salon Life (tags: marriage equality lgbt rights)

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Election 2008

Two things I discovered via bilerico.com… This stirring music video of Obama’s post New Hampshire primary speech. I’m still not sure whether I’m voting for him or for Hillary, but either way, I’m going to be getting a more intelligent candidate than the utter imbecile in office now, so I’m happy either way. On the

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marriage discrimination attached to Gov’s Property Tax Bill

Indiana Republican Foul play at work – because looked like SJR-7 the marriage discrimination bill that has failed to pass the Indiana House the last two years, might again fail, Representative Eric Turner, ranking Republican on the House Rules and Legislative Policy Committee, filed a amendment to House Joint Resolution No. 1 (HJR1) a proposed

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links for 2008-01-06

keybr.com – Be productive, type faster! Sure. Right. (tags: exercise tutorials fun productivity) Traverse City Record-Eagle – Religion & Marriage: Some churches take stand on gay unions They won’t marry anyone, gay or straight. (tags: lgbt equality marriage rights)

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The Fort Wayne Journal-Gazette on the Marriage Discrimination Amendment

Courtesy of blueindiana.net, I enjoyed this editorial from the The Fort Wayne Journal-Gazette on the plans to re-introduce SJR-7 – the marriage discrimination amendment – into the short legislative session this year (when, of course, there are much more pressing issues like property tax reform that need to be addressed.) There is no reason for

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Bigotted Atkins Cheesecake Family denies partner access to gay son

From today’s Indy Star: Brett Conrad spent more than half his life as Patrick Atkins’ partner. For 25 years, the men shared bank accounts, apartments and eventually a home in Fishers. But when Atkins, 47, fell seriously ill in 2005, Conrad faced what many gay Hoosiers consider a travesty: no law guaranteeing them the same

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Jesus MCC’s New Campaign

The second part of Jesus MCC’s anti-discrimination campaign is rolling out here in Indianapolis, and it involves six potentially provocative billboards like this one: I like it.

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SJR-7 Died in Committee

From numerous sources, but quoting from the Indiana Equality email: Marriage Discrimination Amendment dies in committee Indianapolis – Indiana Equality announced today that the Indiana House of Representative’s Rules and Legislative Procedures Committee voted five to five on Senate Joint Resolution 7 (SJR-7). As a result, the amendment will not be brought for a vote

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Catholic Archbishop Doesn’t Know Difference Between Sex and Rape

In commenting on Italy’s current proposed same-sex civil unions bill, Archbishop Angelo Bagnasco revealed that he doesn’t understand the difference between sex and rape: “Why say ‘no’ to forms of legally recognised co-habitation which create alternatives to the family? Why say ‘no’ to incest?” he said at a meeting of Church workers, according to a

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Lilly Opposes SJR-7

As reported in the Indy Star (and by bilerico.com, Advance Indiana and Taking Down Words): Eli Lilly has joined several other large Indiana corporations (Cummins, Wellpoint, Dow AgroSciences) in opposing SJR-7, the Marriage Discrimination Amendment: “As a result of this uncertainty (over what the amendment’s impact might be,)” Murphy wrote, “some employees may choose to

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Indiana Newspapers Against SJR-7

I was in the middle of putting this post together when Bilerico beat me to it… Newspapers that have come out against the SJR-7 marriage discrimination amendment legislation: The Marion Chronicle-Tribune The Bedford Times-Mail [link deprecated: http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/news/editorial/16859370.htm The Fort Wayne Journal-Gazette ] The Indianapolis Star The Bloomington Herald-Times The Evansville Courier & Press The South

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House committee tables SJR-7 vote

According to Bil from Bilerico: The House Rules and Legislative Affairs committee listened to three hours of testimony regarding SJR-7, the proposed constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage and civil unions. After several members of the committee commented that they’d like more time to review the testimony before voting on the matter, Chair Scott Pelath

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SJR-7 Assigned to Committee

House Joint Resolution 15 (HJR-15), the legislation formerly known as SJR-7 and the marriage discrimination amendment, has been assigned to committee in the house. It’s been placed in the House Rule and Legislative Procedures Committee. Please contact the members of this committee (information below) to oppose this legislation – for Democrats, remind them that putting

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SJR-7 and Eric Miller

Due to supervising all the work on my old house over the past few weeks, and the work on our current home (which is still ongoing. Sigh.), and a busy time at work, and preparation to go to SXSW, I’m guilty of quite a few “drive-by” posts: where I mention important things without enough context

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University Domestic Partnership Benefits at Risk

In a neat bit of investigative work, Bil Browning discovered that SJR-7 author Brandt Hershman’s statements about the bill not affecting domestic partnership benefits for Purdue and Indiana University faculty members is not only false, but that he wrote the bill specifically to target those rights. Bill uncovered legislation by Hershman to repeal those rights

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SJR-7 Will Eliminate Purdue’s Health Care Benefits

As Gary Welsh rightly points out in a must-read article on SJR-7 and Purdue University’s health care benefits, the infamous second paragraph of the proposed amendment will indeed eliminate health care benefits for unmarried partners that are currently used by 31 employees of the university. The question is raised in the Lafayette Journal and Courier

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Rally at the Statehouse – next Monday

The rally — called the “Read the Fine Print” — will feature Candace Gingrich, sister of Former Speaker of the US House of Representatives Newt Gingrich. WHAT: “Read the Fine Print!” Rally at the Statehouse WHEN: Monday, February 19, 2007 from 1:00 pm — 2:30 pm (Presidents Day) WHERE: Indiana Statehouse, North Atrium, 200 W.

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Right-wing lies about SJR-7

On the opinion page of today’s Indy Star, Sheila Suess Kennedy, associate professor of law and public policy at the Indiana University School of Public and Environmental Affairs in Indianapolis, (and one of my neighbors – she and her husband live a couple blocks away) comments on SJR-7, the amendment to ban equal marriage rights:

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SJR-7 Passes Senate

The bill to amend the Indiana Constitution to ban Marriage Equality passed the Senate today. As Gary Welsh notes on Advance Indiana, the right-wing hate battalion have managed to achieve something that even the KKK weren’t able to do when they held total control of state government – disenfranchise an entire unfavored minority group. Here

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SJR-7 Passes Indiana Senate

The controversial, discriminatory Senate Joint Resolution 7 – to amend the Indiana Constitution to bar equal marriage rights – had a second reading in the Senate today, and was passed by the Senate, much to the State’s disgrace. Apparently an amendment to remove the highly ambigous second paragraph of the bill was voted down, even

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SJR-7 Update

SJR-7, the bill to amend the Indiana Constitution to prevent equal marriage rights for gay people, was passed out of the Senate Judiciary Committee today, and will soon be presented to the full Senate for voting – probably next week. That’s pretty bad news, especially since two amendments to the legislation that were presented were

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Rally at the Indiana Statehouse to Oppose SJR-7

A while back, I wrote about SJR-7, the bill to amend the Indiana constitution to eliminate equal marriage rights for same-sex couples, and I urged people to contact the legislators responsible for this atrocious piece of legislation. Well, there’s more you can do. Indiana Equality is organizing a rally at the State House to oppose

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Anti-Marriage Equality Amendment Introduced to Indiana Legislature

As Bilerico is reporting – the massively flawed legislation to put an anti-marriage equality amendment (banning civil marriage for same-sex partners) on the ballot for voting had been re-introduced to the legislature. Here’s the proposed bill: DIGEST OF INTRODUCED BILL Definition of marriage. Provides that marriage in Indiana consists only of the union of one

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A Letter to John Edwards on Marriage Equality

A letter written by the very wise Pam Spaulding on Pam’s House Blend (link has been deprecated) is a great help in sorting out the marriage equality issue for fair-minded people, so I’m reprinting it here in full… Dear John Edwards, I have read about some comments you made recently in New Hamphire about marriage

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Indy Star survey on Marriage Equality

The Indy Star has an online poll on it’s front page, asking: Should the Indiana General Assembly amend the state constitution to ban same-sex marriages? Please go vote NO on the poll.

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Mark Foley blames crimes on being abused

Priest comes forward to tell of his inappropriate behavior with Mark Foley when Foley was young. Let me make it really clear: I was not molested as a kid. Most of my gay friends were never molested as kids. I have several friends who were molested. Some of them are straight and some are gay,

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Marriage, children and equal rights

Good As You presents an especially apt point about the fallaciousness of the “reserving marriage for the nuturing of children” argument: Hmm..you know why the judges “ignored is that marriage is not primarily about adults; marriage is about the nurturing and development of children?” Because marriage certificates don’t legalize unions with the caveat that those

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Mark Foley, and “real” gay relationships

In an opinion piece for the LA Times, Michelangelo Signorile says that the media should have “outed” Mark Foley as gay soon after his hypocritcal votes in favor of anti-gay legislation. I agree with Signorile about “outing” hypocritical public figures, and always have. But there’s something else in the article that I wanted to highlight…

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Brad Pitt: I’ll marry when everyone can

via Shakesville, this article on Yahoo: “Angie and I will consider tying the knot when everyone else in the country who wants to be married is legally able,” the 42-year-old actor reveals in Esquire magazine’s October issue, on newsstands Sept. 19. That is pretty awesome. I have to admit that at each of the three

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The Soulforce Equality Riders Arrested at Falwell’s “Liberty” University

I mentioned the planned Equality Rides a few weeks ago — modeled after the student “Freedom Riders” of the 1960s who travelled around to centers of intolerance and bigotry, these students are traveling to Universities and military institutions that ban LGBT students. Yesterday, 20 equality ride students were arrested at Jerry Fallwell’s “Liberty” University. LYNCHBURG,

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Laurel Hester Dies

Laurel Hester, the New Jersey woman who fought to get her pension awarded to her female partner died yesterday. She succeeded in making sure that her partner Stacie Andree was able to receive her money and keep their family home, after a long legal battle with county officials.

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Johnny Weir Dodges the Gay Question

Johnny’s flamboyant, but he’s not officially out… “I think it’s funny that people care,” Weir said before ultimately placing fourth. “I don’t have a problem with people saying anything. People could be saying, ‘Oh, let’s poll about Bode Miller. Let’s poll about Michelle Kwan being a lesbian. It’s not a big deal. Who I sleep

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Don’t Ask Don’t Tell Costs $363.8 million

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The Pentagon’s costs for firing service members for homosexuality under its “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy were nearly twice as high as a government estimate made last year, an independent commission said on Tuesday. A University of California commission of military experts said it cost at least $363.8 million to implement the

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LGBTQ Youth Equality Ride Across the U.S.

During March and April The Soulforce Equality Ride will be visiting 19 religious and military schools to give voice to those who can not speak up themselves because of oppressive school policies. Many of these schools expell lgbtq students who come out or are outed. At military and religious colleges around the nation, bans on

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Johnny Weir

Too funny: He has the face of Paul Rubens, the hair of Nick Nolte, and the fashion sense of a gay dolphin caught in a fishing net while reenacting a scene from Showgirls. What’s not to love about U.S. Olympic figure skater Johnny Weir? As Steph mentioned on her blog, Johnny is one of the

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Anti-Gay Killer’s MySpace profile

Of course you’ve heard about the teenager Jacob Robida who went on a rampage at a gay bar in Massachusetts with an axe and a gun, and who was later killed in a police shootout. Checkout his myspace web page. Too bad none of the people he hurt and killed get to have accolades on

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More Indiana State Legislature Attacks on Gay People

Bills that affect lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered folks in Indiana: Preference of Marriage Bills House Bill 1335 (Preference for marriage over other relationships) and House Bill 1202 (Preference for marriage; instruction by schools) – Introduced by Rep. Jeff Thompson (R-Lizton) These two bills, would have Indiana law declare that marriage is preferred, encouraged, and

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Orson Scott Card

Aw, man. I suspected when we were reading Ender’s Game for my book club that mormon Orson Scott Card was a conservative nutjob. Turns out he is indeed: he actually writes an article attempting to rehabilitate the Sith and the dark side, claiming that the Jedis are the force of evil, not Darth Vader. That

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We Kissed Inside The Statehouse

Photo Set: 2005 Rally Against SJR-7 We had a wonderful, successful rally at the Indiana Statehouse yesterday! Hundreds of people showed up with extraordinary signs to protest the SJR7 legislation. We were getting people’s contact information, and of the people who agreed to sign up, we got 757 contact addresses. That was about 3/4ths of

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Statehouse Rally for Equal Marriage Rights – March 8

I will be attending this rally on March 8th, and I’m inviting you all to join me. I will be one of the crowd-control folks in a lovely orange vest. If you want to get together for a sign-making party, please let me know; this event is only a few short days away. In response

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Marriage Discrimination Amendment Bill Passes Senate (SJR-7)

You may have read that yesterday the Senate passed SJR7, the bill designed to codify hate and discrimination against gay people into the Indiana Constitution. Soon it will pass the House, and then it will need to pass in another legislative season, and be voted on by the people of Indiana before it becomes the

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New Map of North America

2022-03-15 Update: This was a reaction Bush’s Defense of Marriage proposed amendment, but I had to reconstruct the context 18 years later. Still, fuck George W. Bush. Warmongering dumbass.

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Ohio’s Marriage Discrimination Amendment

Salon Magazine has an article on Ohio’s anti-marriage equality amendment, which will be on Nov. 3rds. The measure goes beyond simply disallowing same-sex marriage arrangements, and potentially invalidates all legal agreements between a same-sex couple, including child custody agreements, wills, and power of attorney. Ten other states — Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, North

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Senate Blocks Bush Move to Ban Same-Sex Marriage. For Now.

Yep, the senate voted not to pass the amendment denying marriage rights to gay people today. However, they basically knew it would fail this year. The key was to get people on record voting against the amendment, so they can use it as a tool to bash Senators in the upcoming election. Then if they

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Salon Article: Republicans Adjust Strategy to Target Gay Marriage

Because of the erosion of support from independents and from moderate Republicans, Salon reports that Karl Rove’s new strategy is to energize evangelical Christians for the election. His choice of tool: The anti-gay marriage amendment. so they’re coming after me, y’all. The White House’s strategy for winning the votes of evangelicals has several components. It

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Bush Renews Call to Ban Gay Marriage

I want this man out of my White House. At the very least, the man needs to go back to high school and take a damned civics course, so he can remember how the government, especially the judiciary, is supposed to work. From the Indianapolis Star: TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) — President Bush on Monday renewed

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Massachusetts Performs First Legal Gay Marriages

Ahhh, love. Isn’t it grand? Have I mentioned recently that I expect my whole family to vote Democrat this year?? Via Reuters: CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (Reuters) – Two women were among the first gay couples to be legally married on Monday and hundreds more waited for their turn to make history as Massachusetts became the only

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“We” The People

Bush calls for amendment to bar gay marriage WASHINGTON – President Bush called yesterday for a constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriage, pushing an explosive cultural issue to the forefront of the 2004 presidential campaign. In a brief announcement, Bush urged Congress to pass an amendment to the Constitution “defining and protecting marriage as

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I Left My Heart in San Francisco

The Associated Press — SAN FRANCISCO – Opponents of gay marriage went to court Friday to stop an extraordinary act of ongoing civil disobedience in which San Francisco has issued nearly 100 marriage licenses to gay couples. Weddings were continuing Friday and over the long holiday weekend, despite the effort by the Campaign for California

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Massachusetts Court: Gays have access to equal marriage rights

Wow, I spoke too soon; Democrats won’t be able to dodge this as a campaign issue no matter what. The Massachusetts Supreme Court just decided that civil unions were not enough and only full marriage rights for gay people would be acceptable under Massachusetts law, meaning that gay people may be able to get married

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Astonishing, a well written article in the Indy Star

An intelligent, well thought out article on the Bible, and on equal marriage rights for gay people. Note: there’s a reason why I always say “equal marriage rights for gay people” and not “gay marriage.” There’s a difference between the two, and this is it: We already have gay marriage. Yeah, you read that right.

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Pope speaks out against equal marriage rights for gay people

On Sunday, Pope John Paul spoke out against equal marriage rights for gay and lesbian people. “In our times, a misunderstood sense of rights has sometimes disturbed the nature of the family institution and conjugal bond itself,” John Paul said. Let me repeat: never setting foot in a Catholic church again.

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In Defense Of Biblical Marriage

The Presidential Prayer Team is currently urging us to: “Pray for the President as he seeks wisdom on how to legally codify the definition of marriage. Pray that it will be according to Biblical principles. With any forces insisting on variant definitions of marriage, pray that God’s Word and His standards will be honored by

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Massachusetts strikes down ban on equal marriage rights for gay people

The Massachusetts Supreme Court ruled that the ban on equal marriage rights for gay people was unconstituational, but didn’t go so far as to grant marriage licenses to the gay couples who filed the suit. Instead, it sent the issue back to the Massachusetts legislature, who will have 180 days to remedy the inequality of

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Federal Marriage Discrimination Constitutional Amendment

First of all, I don’t believe such a thing will actually pass and become law in the United States. The amount of work it takes to pass an amendment is phenomenal, and I really believe the anti-gay hate-mongers like George Bush just don’t have the numbers. But if, on the off-chance it did pass, I

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Relationships and the Importance of Gay Marriage

This article in the New York Times, in a nutshell, explains what I’ve been saying for 15 years about why it is important for gay and lesbian people to be allowed to get married. “Marriage, for instance, isn’t just about the relationship of two people. Other people have to recognize the couple as a couple.

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Same-Sex Marriage

The biggest fallacy in this debate is the belief that gay men and lesbians aren’t able to get married right now. Not only are there thousands of married gay and lesbian couples, they’ve been getting married for decades. There are several aspects to marriage; among them a legal aspect, a religious aspect, a social aspect,

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